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Letters to the editor, July 17



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A suggestion
on recycling
In last week’s letters to the editor, Leslie Fuller wondered why the city of Eden Prairie doesn’t provide recycling bins in our city parks. Although I can’t provide the real answer to this question, I have a hunch that the blame is being aimed in the wrong direction. We used to have the opportunity to recycle cans and bottles in our city parks. Whether due to ignorance, laziness, or obstinance, compliance was horrible.
Although clearly marked, and often sitting right next to a trash bin, recycling bins would be just as full of garbage as the non-recycling containers. Another example: At my workplace of roughly 70 employees, there is a blue recycling container with a circular hole in the lid, adjacent to the trash can. It is specifically labeled, “aluminum beverage cans only.” Someone has even attached a plastic beverage bottle to the side of the hole in the lid, with the universal red slash, meaning “no,” yet people continue to throw in plastic bottles, steel soup cans, leftover food from lunch and other trash. In addition, aluminum beverage cans are routinely thrown into paper-only recycling bins. Having been a conscientious recycler for 30 years, I do not understand why people cannot put forth the small effort it takes to recycle properly. Collectively we could make a significant difference in our communities and our world.
Ann Berne-Rannow
Eden Prairie

A sad day
for Eden Prairie
The proposed siting of storm water drainage ponds on the former Sjostrand property illustrates the confusing state of affairs in local Eden Prairie government today. First, let me be clear about something. During my last few months on the City Council back in ’06, the preliminary approved Pioneer Trail Road expansion layout placed the drainage ponds to the west of the Sjostrand property on city park land. So, the proposal to initiate a quick-take, condemnation process to grab the Sjostrand land, demolish his buildings and construct ponds was made in the early days of 2007 by the new City Council.
What is frustratingly obvious is that we, the people of Eden Prairie, had tax revenue coming off that property. We had an owner who was painstakingly caring for the buildings. We had a piece of Eden Prairie history, arguably one of the finest vintage barns in the western suburbs, being preserved in private hands. Now the council is scrambling to defend why the environmental review never identified the barn as a possible National Historic Register site, why the plans changed to move the ponds off public land and onto private property, and why other less intrusive storm water collection concepts were never considered (such as rain water gardens).
Whatever happens now will not replace the tax generating, privately funded preservation we had. Either the barn will be torn down and we the public will get ponds in its place or the barn will survive and we the public will pay for its continued upkeep. (The barn would make an incredible venue for community theatre, concerts and public recreational opportunities.) But to have acquired this property over the objections of its owner and as a consequence to lose one of Eden Prairie’s last hobby farms for some ponds that could have gone about anywhere is truly a sad day for Eden Prairie.
Ron Case
Eden Prairie

Election 2008
Supports
Jenifer Loon
Energy consumption and supply is an important national and local issue. Jenifer Loon, the Republican candidate for representative of District 42B, believes in creating marketable energy solutions that will benefit all Minnesotans. Recently, she proposed a plan to sponsor small businesses to look at available research and develop innovative energy technologies, which would invigorate the local business environment statewide and attract new business to the state as well.
By electing Jenifer Loon as representative for District 42B, we can ensure that a reasonable and responsible energy plan will be a part of Minnesota’s future.
Deborah Sershon
Eden Prairie

A list
of grievances
I proudly fly the flag of the United States of America year round. First to show my pride in the freedom I am allowed through effort and work, also for many personal and private reasons of remembrance. And I thank the good lord for the right to do so.
I shall embark upon a list of grievances that I feel are leading this great nation of ours down a horrific path we must reverse, through the exercise of our right to vote.
Liberalism is and should be our greatest concern, the constant bad-mouthing of industry and assorted businesses, and supposedly its deplorable greed – hogwash. Crooks and rip-off artists come in all sizes and shapes. The fore-mentioned is what supplied the foundation for the growth of our nation with all types of jobs, through entrepreneurship not greed.
It is now being torn asunder by out-of-control spending by the liberal-minded politician – for things we could really do without, especially in these trying times – by promising to do this for you, for your vote, a very sick situation primarily for total control of political power for a variety of reasons, which would have very little benefit to the average citizen. The end result? Higher taxes.
Global warming, the highly touted piece of baloney; rail systems to nowhere primarily supported by the taxpayer. Global warming is and always has been in the hands of Mother Nature for eons upon eons of time.
The people have been put in a terrible situation by the absolute foolishness of so many of these. Its correction is needed now, 2008, November, the national election.
We have an ample if not overabundant supply of oil offshore, in our nation, and yes ANWR our national wildlife refuge and it will not disrupt the wildlife. This should have been going on for 20 years. We could have forestalled what is taking place now (out of control gas prices). Yes change is needed now and with the casting of your vote in 2008 it will occur.
The number of businesses that have left the country, the jobs lost can all be laid upon the liberal spending that has put an unbearable assessment upon the backs of taxpayers.
Governor, do the people of Hennepin County a favor put the Twins stadium on the ballot and allow the voter the right which is theirs to take it off our property tax bill, and let the owners and players pay for that grand and glorious pile of junk. The same goes for the Vikings and their so grand and glorious stadium. Nuff said.
Jerry LaBarre
Eden Prairie

Listen and think
Eden Prairie
There have been a couple of letters in the paper recently about the “wonderful” slate of candidates that the Democrats are choosing for the upcoming election.
Let’s consider some of the people they have passed over. A few months ago, there were several vying for the presidential nomination. Beside the two who have been embroiled in the campaign dogfight, there was Joe Biden who was first elected to the Senate from Delaware in 1973, 35 years ago. Christopher Dodd from Connecticut elected to the Senate in 1981, 26 years ago. Bill Richardson served in congress for 14 years, served for a year as UN Ambassador, three years as energy secretary, and has been governor of New Mexico for five years. Evan Bayh served two terms as governor of Indiana and has been in the senate for nine years – experience, experience, experience!
And who do the Democrats pick as their bright star?
Barack Obama, whose vast resume includes community organizer (whatever that is). This man, who was more known for voting “present” than for standing on his newly discovered high morals, didn’t even complete his first term in the Illinois State Senate before attempting to run for the U.S. House in 2000. He makes it to Washington less than four years ago and, as one reporter has stated, has spent only about 14 months of real time in the U.S. Senate. What a phony!
As for this Ashwin Madia, running for congress – who’s he? As a young bachelor, he has no understanding of a family budget, family healthcare costs or college expenses. In a campaign year demanding change, I’d caution voters to look at exactly who can best represent our needs in Washington – a single guy who moved back into the district to run or a family man like Erik Paulsen who has served Eden Prairie so well in St. Paul for 14 years.
As for the comedian whose “jokes” have turned out to be not so funny after all; whose plummeting ratings forced him off the air and who is probably brushing up on how to spell the words s-e-n-a-t-e and W-a-s-h-i-n-g-t-o-n. Well that background speaks for itself. I’ll take a seasoned record like Norm Coleman’s any day.
At a time in our country when there are very serious issues involving our economy and our national security – I know that the wise voters of Eden Prairie will take a look at substance, experience and character in November and not be caught up in the modern-day media fawning over fluff and image.
Fred Koppelman
Eden Prairie

Other topics
Responds to
column
In the July 3, 2008, edition of the Eden Prairie News, Rev. Timothy Johnson addressed many of the concerns held by traditionally minded people regarding gay marriage in the United States. His strongest argument against allowing gay people to enter into marriage is a citation from Genesis. He concludes, “... traditional biblical standards regarding marriage are not some ancient throw back to a previous age ... they really are the dynamic, vital prescriptions for a healthy future, securing the best possible preparation of the emerging generations.”
Setting aside the fact that many young people today are well brought up in homes that don’t fit Rev. Johnson’s narrow ideal of the nuclear family, he crucially ignores the fact that the Christian church does not hold a monopoly on marriage in the United States. A couple in the state of Minnesota cannot legally go to his church, hold a ceremony and be considered married in the eyes of the state. In order to be legally married, a couple must first receive a license from a local government office, and only afterwards may they solemnize their vows through a Christian ceremony. The couple might choose instead to take vows through a non-Christian church, or simply through a justice of the peace or other public servant.
Rev. Johnson’s arguments that the “institution of marriage must be protected and strengthened” only apply to the institution of Christian marriage. If he and other Christian leaders choose to deny gay couples the opportunity to hold marriage ceremonies under their auspices, that is their right, as private religious organizations. For those who value equal rights under the public institutions that govern us all, Rev. Johnson’s biblically based conclusions are irrelevant.
Cynthia Schaufenbuel
Eden Prairie

Future world
of hydrogen
The year is 2025. Outside the Twin Cities, large petroleum-shaped storage tanks have the word “hydrogen” stenciled across the sides. Electrolysis is turning water into hydrogen. A plant across the street is changing renewable hydrogen into anhydrous ammonia.
All across Minnesota, tractors are powered by hydrogen. School children ride buses powered by hydrogen engines.
Annual farm incomes have become much more stable. Energy has become a major Minnesota farm crop adding hundreds of millions of dollars to farm income. Prosperity and jobs are being restored to rural Minnesota.
The Twin Cities have benefited. Metropolitan households have a reliable source of renewable energy. Electrolysis has been creating hydrogen all winter. Fuel cells are now generating electricity for the city’s air conditioners.
Times are especially exciting for Southwestern Metro commuters traveling to Minneapolis and St. Paul. These commuters make stress-free trips to their job while saving thousands of gallons of expensive gasoline. They are riding the light rail. The train’s electric motors are powered by fuel cells using hydrogen.
For over a hundred years, our unsustainable economy has been powered by fossil fuels that pollute the water and air with mercury and carbon dioxide.
America’s goal is to reduce the amount of carbon dioxide in our atmosphere. We cannot take the easy path which will lead to known catastrophic consequences. We must choose the more difficult road that leads to sustainable economic prosperity.
A renewable energy economy based on hydrogen is an economy that we can pass on to future generations.
Ran Daniels
Eden Prairie
Editor’s note: Daniels is executive director of the Hydrogen Fuel Society of Minnesota.

Explore Three
Rivers parks
If you’re finding that high gas prices are limiting your travel and recreation budget this summer, I’d like to invite you to check out what we have to offer at Three Rivers Park District. Do you like to camp but aren’t sure about trekking to northern Minnesota? We have camping opportunities for every skill level – from cabin camping at Baker Near-Wilderness Settlement to family camps at Carver Park Reserve to hike-in camp sites at Cleary Lake Regional Park.
Many families are discovering that great camping opportunities are available close to home. Our reservations office reports the number of reservations for all campgrounds has increased since 2007, with the Lake Auburn Campground at Carver showing a 19 percent spike over last year.
Three Rivers offers countless opportunities in our 21 parks in five counties for recreation in any season of the year. We have numerous lakes where you can launch your boat or cast a line. The Park District operates upland swim ponds at Elm Creek Park Reserve and Lake Minnetonka Regional Park that feature filtered and chlorinated water, and we also have beaches on many of the lakes in our park system. Our parks contain miles of paved and turf trails that allow people to explore at their own pace.
Every day, Three Rivers offers free parking for personal and family vehicles. There is never any charge to use basics like the trails, creative play areas, fishing piers and lake beaches. We want to make it easy and affordable for families to enjoy the outdoors. If people choose to use facilities such as upland swim ponds, boat launches, archery ranges, dog off-leash areas and rental equipment, we charge modest fees for those services.
On behalf of the Board of Commissioners, I invite you to explore our parks this summer. If you have any questions about Three Rivers Park District, please e-mail me at commissioners@threeriversparkdistrict.org or visit http://www.threeriversparks.org.
Larry Blackstad
Minnetonka
Editor’s note: Blackstad is chair of the Three Rivers Park District Board of Commissioners.


I called the Madia Campaign,...

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I called the Madia Campaign, and they told me that Fred Koppelman never called them. So, by what "right" does Fred Koppelman claim, and I quote:

As a young bachelor, he (Madia) has no understanding of a family budget, family healthcare costs or college expenses.

So, where did Fred Koppelman get that? Well, one can assume he simply made it up. And since Mr. Koppelman sings the praises of "Family Man" Erik "The Hustler" Pauslen, that would be a pretty good assumption.

But, a better question would be: why is the Eden Prairie News letting Mr. Koppelman get away with claiming that a man that was the Student Body President at the University of Minnesota, a man that graduated from a law school, has "no understanding of college costs"?

Clearly, a man that represented the student body to the University's administration, understands the cost of college. Clearly, a man that graduated from law school understands the cost of college.

As for the rest of Mr. Koppelman's letter? I'll just chalk that up to a typical republiCon typically making stuff up.

They've been doing it for years; from Brad "I Believe In Republican Values (except when I don't)" Aho, to Mayor Phil "Depends What Your Definition of 'Is' Is" Young, Erik "The Hustler" Paulsen, to Norm "Smokescreen" Coleman, to George aWol Bush.

The simple fact of the matter is: you cannot take anything an elected republiCon (or, for that matter, a republiCon party official) says at face value.

And that, Ladies and Gentlemen, is a shame. But, what is more of a shame, is the lax standards of The Eden Prairie News.

Why do republiCons tell whoppers, to and on The Eden Prairie News?

Because they can, Ladies and Gentlemen - because they can. And that's even more of a shame.


Submitted by twoputttommy on July 17, 2008 - 10:46pm.

Mr Ron Case: Isn't this...

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Mr Ron Case: Isn't this your second rant in three weeks that includes "When I was on the city council ... blah, blah, blah." I'd like to point out that "was" is the operative word because the voters decided to remove you. There were no hanging chads involved, it was simply the will of the people.

I understand your need to still feel wanted and a part of city hall. Maybe the current council would let you still serve in some capacity. You could greet those attending council meetings, or provide refreshments. We could have a special name for you, "Helper Ron", "Rad-cool Ron", "Ron the Gopher" ... just some ideas, it would be a hit with the kids.

Regarding the Sjostrand property: I read the Star Tribune story on that this week and nothing they report supports your version of what has taken place. Specifically they didn't credit you for doing "blah, blah, blah." They didn't even mention your name - you're old news.

Going back to your rant about airport expansion, I think you've contradicted yourself with wanting to save an old barn that is directly across the street from an airport that you claim produces noise pollution, water pollution, and airport. You threw in "carcinogenic" as well for dramatic effect - but I don't think noise can cause cancer, even in laboratory mice.

What would happen if this "historic" barn was no longer used for commercial purposes (i.e storing boats and RVs) and instead was used to house horsies, cows, and chickens. If saved as a historical property this likely could be the case. Do you want to be responsible for horsies that are forced to endure all that noise or inhale toxic fumes?

You also complain that the city took the Sjostrand property off the tax rolls. When I think farms or barns being removed from the tax base, I think of you, Mr. "Take of it off the Tax Roll Ron", I think of you.

By all means Ron, keep the letters coming in. Each and every one is a further validation of the 2006 election results.


Submitted by bigfoot on July 18, 2008 - 7:03pm.

Putt-Putt After reading your...

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Putt-Putt

After reading your response to the Koppleman letter, I did attempt to contact the Madia campaign. The answering machine went something like this: "Ashwin .. Madia .. is not available .."

Mr. Koppelman also might have attempted to contact Madia's office and encountered the same road block. However, I disagree with your premise that Koppelman was in any way obligated to do so. Mr. Koppleman stated an opinion. Right or wrong, that can't be refuted by you claiming he never called the Madia campaign.

I have done some research on Ashwin Madian. I've no doubt that he is a fine man. He is well educated and has served this country as an officer in the United States Marine Corps. He spent a few years active in Republican politics before becoming a Democrat. (As you find amusement in using the term RepubliCon, I could use the term "Dumb-O-Crat." But Why?

Going back to his days his days as student body President at the University of Minnesota Madia fought against funding for GLBT student groups. Let it be known that Putt-Putt has openly supported gay marriage for years. With that being said, I'll give Putt-Putt an opportunity to contact the Madia campaign before he backpedals.

Somehow in addressing the Koppelman letter, Putt-Putt bring up members of the Eden Prairie City Council. He refers to the Mayor as, Phil "Depends What Your Definition of 'Is' Is" Young. I'm sorry Putt-Putt, but you're confusing Phil Young with former President Bill Clinton. That was back during the time when Madia was a republican.

God's speed and keep it on the fairway.


Submitted by bigfoot on July 20, 2008 - 7:42pm.

I compared Phil Young to...

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I compared Phil Young to Bill Clinton for the old-fashioned reason: Young EARNED it. He tried to claim that even though endorsed by the GOP, the GOP wasn't going to "help" him. Which puts Mayor Maybe into the postition of essentially saying "Well, that depends what your definition of "help" is" - because at the time Mayor Maybe claimed that, the local GOP website had a link to a site that was raising money and recruiting volunteers for Phil's campaign.

And it's this type of discussion that has caused Erik Paulsen to go from Majority Leader in the state house to a member of the Minority Party: the electorate simply cannot trust GOP Leaders nor Leadership to tell the truth.

And yes, I do support the right of Churches to recognize unions that meet their religious qualifications and requirements; and I also support the right of Churches to decline to recognize unions that do not meet their religious qualifications and requirements - sanctification of a union by a Church is a RELIGIOUS rite.

And I support the legal concept of Liberty and Justice for all, under the framework of the United States Constitution - you know, "liberty and justice for ALL".

Which by definition, makes me a Democrat, because Republicans believe in "liberty and justice for SOME - and only Republicans get to pick and chose which are worthy of it."

GOP is the party of hypocrisy.


Submitted by twoputttommy on July 22, 2008 - 8:41am.

Twoputt, Your anger over...

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Twoputt,

Your anger over Koppelman's generalized conclusions about Madia (which any reader can regard or disregard as they see fit) might not ring so hollow if you didn't do even worse with your attack on Young.

Your earlier posts take issue with Young based upon the words used by a Strib reporter in an article on the 2006 election (note to twoputt: the lack of quotes around the words mean they aren't Young's words). If you're going to attack someone for splitting hairs ala Bill Clinton on the use of a specific word or phrase wouldn't it be a tad bit more honest if that word or phrase was actually a quote from the person you're attacking?

As to Koppelman, it might be true that he exercised his freedom to make a generalized comment about a candidate for office in a different way than you might. (He didn't resort to name-calling, which is also a departure from your high-brow political analysis). But, I also think that most readers look for more than generalized "no understanding" comments before they make their minds up about a candidate.


Submitted by epeagle on July 22, 2008 - 1:42pm.

Putt Putt I understand you...

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Putt Putt

I understand you being upset that the GOP didn't endorse your candidate. They supported Phil Young because they beleived he was the best candidate for Eden Prairie Mayor. I'm sure that If the DFL had any semblance of organization, they would have endorsed your guy.

You support the right for churches to decide whether or not they want to "recognize unions." So do I. I didn't know this was even an issue. You're making progress, but let's go one further: If a church "sanctifies" a union between Adam and Steve, should the state recognize this a legal marriage? I say no? What does Ashwin Madia think?


Submitted by bigfoot on July 22, 2008 - 6:11pm.

epeagle - at the end of the...

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epeagle - at the end of the Strib story, Phil Young claimed that though he was endorsed by the Republicans, they weren't helping him raise money or recruit volunteers --- even though the Republicans had a link on their homepage taking surfers to a website that raised money and recruited volunteers to defeat his opponent. It should be noted that after I compared Phil Young to Bill Clinton (“well, it depends upon what your definition of ‘help’ is”) the Republicans took that link down. Sorry if that fact doesn't fit your world view, but hey - that's your problem.

bigfoot - you don't get it. Partisan endorsements do NOT belong in city elections - period. I'd guess Mr. Aho might rue taking the GOP endorsement; I can't wait to hear him try to explain how he believes in "Limited Government", and how the goernment shouldn't be involved in areas private business can and would fill, but he doesn't support selling the liquor stores. You see, Brad is a true republiCon - he wants it both ways.

If you have a question about what Captain Madia thinks, ask him.


Submitted by twoputttommy on July 23, 2008 - 9:01pm.

Twoputt, you're missing the...

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Twoputt, you're missing the point i was trying to make. Your statement "at the end of the story Young claimed...they weren't helping him raise money..." is based upon the reporter's words--i.e. the conclusion the reporter made to end his story. Every reporter has latitude to draw conclusions or make summary points which may be either more general or more broad than the answers to the questions actually asked. A true comparison of Young to Clinton requires knowing what questions were asked of Young and what his answers were. The questions "is the GOP helping you raise money?" or "can the GOP make donations to your campaign?" might receive the same answer and could both permit the same general conclusion from the reporter. But, your attack presumes that the first question was asked. (I also leave aside the issue of whether a weblink constitutes "help").

But, enough of that old election. More interesting will be the race between Aho/Butcher/Case for two council seats. Slap on the hand in today's paper for Case taking some liberty with the facts in his letter of last week. What's your take on that, Twoputt?


Submitted by epeagle on July 24, 2008 - 11:18am.

Putt-Putt You profess that,...

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Putt-Putt

You profess that, "partisan endorsements do NOT belong in city elections - period." When you recently looked down your nose to inform readers that America was the land of "liberty and justice for all", were you snorting mucus back up that somehow blocked off the blood flow to your brain?

Political parties have a legal right to endorse candidates in local elections. In Minnesota, both the GOP and DFL have a long history of endorsing candidates for local office. You may well get away with making up your own rules on the golf course, but how can a sane person suggest the denial to any one the freedom of speech?

In Eden Prairie, the endorsements by political parties or local office did not begin with Phil Young or Brad Aho. It began several year earlier and no one cried about it.

If your reasons for opposing local endorsement are anything besides sour grapes, please provide some bullet points for why you think, legally or otherwise, they should be prohibited. I would love to present these to the cities of Minneapolis and St. Paul, both of which happen to have a decades-long history of electing your DFL-endorsed buddies.

Rather than criticize the GOP for getting involved locally, why not question your friends at the local DFL about their ineffectiveness. It is the poorest of sport, who blames his defeat on the fact the opponent was better prepared.

Does Ashwin Madia support gay marriage? That is the question. If Madia is opposed to gay marriage and Putt-Putt supports it (although you've been waffling) how does Putt-Put reconcile that?

I took your advice and again called the Madia Campaign and again got the answering machine. Your whole attack on Fred Kopplemann began with, "I called the the Madia campaign ... ". You've obviously have the inside track, you should call them. What are you afraid of?


Submitted by bigfoot on July 23, 2008 - 11:52pm.

bigfooot, try calling them...

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bigfooot, try calling them during normal, business hours.

As far as your "we're republiCons, and we reserve the "right" to endorse", let me explain it in a manner you might understand:

political bounderies cross city boundaries. And just as Eden Prairie residents have no business influencing endorsements in Minnetonka elections, Minnetonka residents have no business influencing endorsements in Eden Prairie elections.

While in Minnesota, both parties have a history of endorsing locally, in Eden Prairie they don't. Do you remember the unoffcial but recognized "Redpath Rule"?

That was back when GOP stood for Grand Old Party - unlike today, where GOP stands for Greed Over Principles.

And don't try to claim that GOP Minnetonka residents will recuse themselves for Eden Prairie endorsements, and vice-versa. That simply isn't credible, but then again - republiCon leadership isn't credible, either.


Submitted by twoputttommy on July 24, 2008 - 7:47am.

Putt-Putt I don't "remember...

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Putt-Putt

I don't "remember the unofficial but recognized "Redpath Rule"?" What is it?

If it's an unofficial rule, it it isn't a rule. Who is it that "recognizes" this pretend rule. In your world, you may take a Mulligan if know one is looking, because there is an unwritten rule that allows you to do so. A true golfer would know that the rules don't allow this.

When the issue of political parties endorsing local candidates appeared more recently, it was pointed out that former Mayor Jean Harris did receive an endorsement from the local Republican party in the 90s. At that time, no one complained, citing some unofficial rule.

Your rationalization for the DFL sour grapes regarding the endorsement process is that "political boundaries cross city boundaries." Did you mean to say that state districts cross city boundaries? Either way I will respond to your faulty logic.

The setting of district boundaries rarely will result in a state district exactly matching the boundaries of an individual city. Following you train of thought, if SD 42 covered only the city of Eden Prairie, it would then be okay for endorsements.

You've claimed that the local endorsement process is being tainted by people from Minnetonka and you asked me not to deny that, so I wont. In return, I ask you to submit proof that Minnetonka residents are determining the endorsements in Eden Prairie City Elections.

Any resident from Minnetonka, Duluth, Miami, or Dallas has a first amendment right to support candidates running for local office in Eden Prairie. Those who don't reside in Eden Prairie can't vote in city elections. They certainly are allowed to share their time and talents to support candidates for office anywhere in the country.

I do believe the United States Constitution allows any citizen (as well as those legally in the country) to express their opinions anywhere on domestic soil. You apparently have a much narrower view than I, regarding the freedom of speech.

It is time for Putt-Putt to admit he was wrong for relying on an "unofficial" rule in suggesting we deny others their constitutional right to speak. Putt-Putt was FACTUALLY WRONG."

It should not be left up do disgruntled DFLers to make up the rules in local elections. The only rules to be followed are those set forth by law at the state and federal levels. If Putt-Putt wants change he should contact his DFL buddies and have them enact legislation. If disgruntled DFLers are successful in passing restrictive laws that pass constitutional muster, there will no longer need to be a need to cry foul because they felt some unofficial rule was broken. As well, there will no longer be a need for Putt-Putt to use FACTUALLY incorrect reasoning as he attempts to come to terms with DFL defeat in local elections.

And by the way. The three times I've called the Madia Campaign were during normal business hours. My original reason for doing this was to attempt to gather some background following your attack an Fred Koppelman. As I stated before, Koppelman can't be faulted for not contacting the Madia campaign. It is you who needs to contact Madia to discuss any differences you might have about gay marriage.


Submitted by bigfoot on July 25, 2008 - 12:21am.

Ya know, bigfoot - I never...

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Ya know, bigfoot - I never thought I'd hear a republican say: "well, the DFL does it in Minneapolis, and in Saint Paul, so it's OK that us republicans do it here."

Then again, I never thought GOP would come to stand for GreedOverPrinciples, and a really never thought I'd see the day that I'd miss Richard M. Nixon.


Submitted by twoputttommy on July 25, 2008 - 5:42am.

Putt-Putt It's okay for the...

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Putt-Putt

It's okay for the DFL to make endorsements in local elections in Minneapolis and St. Paul. And it's okay for the GOP to make endorsements in Eden Prairie elections. It's freedom of speech, and unless legislation is enacted to suppress that, it will remain so.

I offer the fact that political parties have long exercised their rights in making endorsements in city elections, in response to your continual assertion that GOP SD-42 has no business in local politics is sour grapes.

I am not a Republican and have never given a dollar to the Republican party. I vote for the candidate not the party. I took no offense in you labeling me as a Republican, but I doing so, you were once again FACTUALLY wrong.


Submitted by bigfoot on July 25, 2008 - 4:05pm.

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News, community information, and an online gathering place for residents of Savage, Minnesota.
Victoria Town Square.com
News, community information, and an online gathering place for residents of Victoria, Minnesota.
Minnesota Reader.com
Links to news and community information gathered from dozens of Minnesota newspapers, open for comments, discussion and rating by readers.

Entertainment

Let's Go! Southwest
Arts, entertainment and "to do" information for the Minnepolis southwest suburbs includes extensive events calendar.

Churches

Worship Directory
Churches and worship services in the southwest suburbs of Minneapolis and St. Paul, including the cities of Chaska, Chanhassen, Eden Prairie, Jordan, Savage, Shakopee, and Prior Lake.

Community Guides

Guide to Belle Plaine
Community guide highlights important people, places and events in Belle Plaine, Minnesota.
Guide to Carver and Cologne
Community guide highlights important people, places and events in Carver and Cologne, Minnesota.
Guide to Chanhassen
Community guide highlights important people, places and events in Chanhassen, Minnesota.
Guide to Chaska
Community guide highlights important people, places and events in Chaska, Minnesota.
Guide to Eden Prairie
Community guide highlights important people, places and events in Eden Prairie, Minnesota.
Guide to Excelsior
Community guide highlights important people, places and events in Excelsior, Minnesota.
Guide to Jordan
Community guide highlights important people, places and events in Jordan, Minnesota.
Guide to Prior Lake
Community guide highlights important people, places and events in Prior Lake, Minnesota.
Guide to Savage
Community guide highlights important people, places and events in Savage, Minnesota.
Guide to Shakopee
Community guide highlights important people, places and events in Shakopee, Minnesota.
Guide to Victoria
Community guide highlights important people, places and events in Victoria, Minnesota.

Classifieds

Southwest Jobs Now
Job listings and career opportunities in the southwest suburbs of Minneapolis and St. Paul, including the cities of Chaska, Chanhassen, Eden Prairie, Jordan, Savage, Shakopee, and Prior Lake.
Southwest Homes Now
Real estate listings and homes for sale in the southwest suburbs of Minneapolis and St. Paul, including the cities of Chaska, Chanhassen, Eden Prairie, Jordan, Savage, Shakopee, and Prior Lake.
Southwest Shop Now
Job listings, used items, garage sales, and everything you'd find in the classifieds. Items from the southwest suburbs of Minneapolis and St. Paul, including the cities of Chaska, Chanhassen, Eden Prairie, Jordan, Savage, Shakopee, and Prior Lake.
Motorbuys.com
Shop online for a great selection of vehicles from Central Minnesota and the Southwest Metro Area.

Coupons

SaverFreak, Minnesota's once-a-week super coupon deal.
Southwest Coupons Online
Printable coupons for deals and discounts from stores and service shops in the southwest suburbs of Minneapolis and St. Paul, including the cities of Chaska, Chanhassen, Eden Prairie, Jordan, Savage, Shakopee, and Prior Lake.